Hi Im new here. I use to tie alot then had no room for the longest time now im back at it. I recently discovered there r rotating vises. I want one. my bugs r a little rusty. Iv been working at a grasshopper pattern out of foam. and a few other funky bugs. Im new to the foam. I usualy fish fresh water. but what is a good fly to use in the summer for saltwater ? I live on vancouver island. I hav lots of dubbing but iv never used it before, Im not the master of deer hair but im alright with it. So for those of u who use rotating vices r they any that are junky that i should stay away from? ex. the jaws go loose, the mechanisms rattle while wraping the bobber... can i get a decent one for under 100? or should i bite the bullet and spend 2 or 3 hundred ? iv done alot of research but most of it is from ppl who sell the product. so there all good lol. And i was reading the fly swapin rules that sounds pretty cool.