Reply With QuoteWhat a beautiful fish, but, then again, he's a fish murdering hick
A matter of perspective
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Thought I'd post this pic I found awhile back. These guys are ecstatic over the young fellows' first big fish, a real trophy,
I think most of us will agree this is a great pic.
Now, if it had been a wolf instead......(????????)
What a beautiful fish, but, then again, he's a fish murdering hick
Why do I spend more time tying flies than catching fish?
Very witty(less). Pretty good rebut, if you were part of the grade 7 debate team. Chances are that fish ended up on the table and not wasted by tossing its flesh in the bush. Pretty big difference there guys. You snack on wolf meat? How 'bout hunting the occasional coyote, or maybe a neighbourhood dog? All in good sport eh?
...human kill to eat . Nothing wrong with killing as long as it not waidted
Wasn't a rebut....It was an introspective of the irony of our own (mine included) double standard, and wasn't aimed at you, but at us. I'm not so sure that whether or not we run " a magnificent animal" through our digestive tract qualifies us to call others with, realistically, a marginally different point of view hillbillys.Originally Posted by ded heron
hahaha i wasn't trying to ruffle any feathers, just an attempt at humour. Maybe you don't know but many find wolves to be a plague to the wilderness, they have no natural predators, they kill livestock and demolish game herds if left unchecked, all because people find them "cute and cuddly" so nobody wants to kill them.
They are vicious animals that kill the things we as people, "snack" on. And so what if someone shoot a coyote or a wolf? they kill your neighborhood dogs and cats for food once they eat every other living thing in the woods.
Why do I spend more time tying flies than catching fish?
Dear Master Clay.
It would seem that your understanding of wildlife population biology (and the role of predators in particular) is a little lacking.
Hopefully you will be able to rectify that in the near future.
Eg. Wolves have lived in balance with "game herds" for millennia. If your statement about demolishing them was correct there would have been no deer in North America when we arrived here a few hundred years ago, nor much else, just a bunch of hungry wolves...
If you wish to start educating yourself I'm sure there are plenty of good books in your school library or the public library.
A good book on the interactions of wolves and humans is "Of Wolves and Men" by Barry Lopez.
Enjoy.
T.
completely agree troutman, people think because they are not usually eaten, that they should not be killed, and therefore hunted, there an animal, they too need to be controlled, when wolf populations rise, they kill livestock, ruin farms, kill your house pets, and work they're way into town, as part of an ethical hunter, i feel it is my job to help with wildlife conservation.
Great first big fish, congrats for the fella.
Last edited by VanIsl Flyfisher; November 27th, 2011 at 05:44 PM.
who said demolish, all you anti-hunters put a bad name on us ethical hunters.
Please refrain from playing the idiot card, as I am no idiot, and I never said they demolish entire species of animals, rather herds of animals. A they are one of the most abundant predators in north america and are apex predators in almost every niche of their food chain. They kill unrelentingly and can destroy entire herds of elk and will challenge bears and other wolves for territory and kills.
They are not cute and cuddly as many think, just because what you see in pictures and video leads you to believe they are. In the north, helicopters are used to shoot as many as they can in order to try and control the populations, and still it is unaffected. Their young have high survival rates and due to the fact nobody wants to kill them, their population sky rockets as very few things can compete with them. They are extremely effective predators who can take down almost any animal in north america, and seeing as how they can eat relatively little meat off a kill, much of it goes to waste for vultures, coyotes and bears.
Now im not saying wolves are or bad, all that I'm saying is that since you and me homo's (sapiens) have come into control of the food chain, if we want to truly manage the resources (deer, elk, moose, livestock) and ascertain our own survival, we have to keep their numbers in check, and the majority (and by that i mean 99%) of the time, it's kill them, since they threaten to unbalance the ecosystem.
And tabgler, I believe what you are refering to based on the being in balance fore "millennia" is a predator-prey balancing eco system, where in which when a prey species numbers decline due to predation from the predator species, predator population decreases with it. And due to the decrease in predator population, prey populations are able to recover and so on into "millennia". Nut now, since we homo sapiens have come along, we don't allow prey species to recover due to habitat removal, competition for prey (i.e hunting) and abundance of other food, (i.e livestock) mean that prey populations are unable to recover, and predator population are unable to be removed. UNLESS we as a species KILL them.
But hey, I'm a dumb hick so what do I know....
Why do I spend more time tying flies than catching fish?
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