Reply With Quotehmmmmm... i wonder, but I'll keep my mouth shut. Wont ruin the suprise for everyone else.
fish farm propaganda
I wonder who payed mr Film maker to do this piece of (as he claims) accurate, inside look into fish farming.
Check out the lice arguments.
http://vimeo.com/16871529
hmmmmm... i wonder, but I'll keep my mouth shut. Wont ruin the suprise for everyone else.
Why do I spend more time tying flies than catching fish?
wow wonder if they have been following the Cohen Inquiry. http://alexandramorton.typepad.com/ Wonder what the these individuals comments would be then... Would hate to call them liars, so maybe they were just misguided.
I don't think these people were lying. Most of what was said was opinion with some facts. They didn't really address the issues that I would consider to the be the biggest impacts of fish farming. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
Nothing is ever what is seems
Yep. far too much spin coming out of both camps regarding salmon farms. really, if one want's to know, read the science, not the tabloids (ie. the news papers and bloggers...including Morton...)Originally Posted by Some fly
"Our tradition is that of the first man who sneaked away to the creek when the tribe did not really need fish." ~ Roderick Haig-Brown
I was at the PNE tonight with my kids and wife. We took the little guy through the animal, farm land, and agricultue expo there. They have a little area set up where kids walk through and they learn about planting food, farming crops, raising animals for meet, fur and milk.......then at the end they had a fish farm display. It was a big pool of water where the kids had to try and net a plastic fish. I'm still not sure how I feel about that. They didn't have it there last year. I don't think I want my kids growing up thinking that fish come from a farm. Just my 2 cents.
"It's a curious fact that estimated lengths and weights tend to make a fish larger than it really is!" Mike Maxwell, 'The Gilly'
But so much of it is.I don't think I want my kids growing up thinking that fish come from a farm.
Don't get me wrong, I think salmon should be farmed in a closed pen environment on land.
Not everyone has the ability, time or ambition to catch or grow their own food.
The trout, oysters, tilapia, tigerprawns, much of the shrimp (and so much more) you see in the stores is farmed, it has to be, to be sustainable.
The fact that they chose to use B.C. Salmon Farming as their example is due to the sponsorship of the exhibit
and was definitely thrown out there for advertising/propoganda purposes.
I guess David Suzuki could have set up a booth.
Be biased towards your wild caught prizes and teach your children about what's going on.
Maybe they'll be the ones to make the difference.
The truth of the matter is fish farms are needed because if we did not have them the wild stocks would be depleted due to the demand. Most do not realize how large the demand for fish is. If you do want to see your fishery be depleted do away with the fish farms because the demand will continue to be there and mighty $ will be more important then conservation.
Yes, I believe adjustments need to be made on how some fish farming is done but to do away with them will create a larger problem. As I said in my first post don't believe everything you read about fish farming as not everything is as it is written.
In my opinion there are a lot bigger threats to the salmon stocks and one of the biggest ones is to do with habitat. There are many creeks that used to hold salmon but the spawning grounds were destroyed and the run no longer exists. Start looking at all these creeks and think about how quick it adds up.
There are many places you can point your finger that hurt the salmon numbers look at the big pitcher rather then just blaming one problem.
Some fly you are right in saying that fish farms are providing a large amount of fish to the open market. But if we didn't have them its arguable about what would happen to the wild stocks. The thing to remember is that most open pen feed lots in BC farm atlantic salmon and the world wide demand is reflecting the demand for atlantics, not our pacific species. Salmon farms are currently being accused of adversely affecting Sokeye. These fish are prized for their flavour, many people consider them to be the best tasting of all pacific salmon. If they are adversely affecting the fraser river runs of Sokeye the loss of those fish needs to be added to the cost of operating the farms.
What I am finding more and more is that the fish farming industry has made some huge mistakes in the past and probably has damaged Salmon returns. I say this after watching the above film and hearing all the changes they said have been done to the way feed lots are run. Yes they may have sea lice under control now, but did they four years ago? When they raised fish that did not survive well in the feed lot pens, did the causes of their demise infect wild fish? The use of SLICE to treat sea lice, have they looked at the impact of this chemical on all other invertebrates? And how long does it stay in the environment before it breaks down? The farming industry is trying to reduce their impacts and I applaud them for that but if the way they were operating before now wasn't damaging the environment and wild fish, why all the changes to operation?
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