Try large 4-6" rabbit strip type patterns.
Double bunnies , matuka, strip leech etc.
Colour sometimes makes a differeence as well.
Black, blue, natural grey/brown or perhaps charteuse.
Don't be afraid to mix white in with any of those.
Sometimes a large bead,barbell eyes or conehead makes a difference.
When fishing to them, try swinging your offering two or three feet above them, and just as it comes into their window, start stripping it away from them. Sometimes a slow strip but very often a more agressive strip imitating a fleeing prey item will get them going.
Works wonders at times.
Good luck.
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