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    Default Recommended pontoon boats for Squamish and Fraser valley river systems

    Hi there,
    Last Spring I saw a group of guys in small pontoon boats floating the Cheakamus - looked amazing as access is tough on that system. Is there anything in particular I should be considering before buying one? Minimum size, good features, things that don't work, etc? I've floated rivers with guides before, but never single handed myself. How do I know which rivers are actually doable? I've done a lot of boating in my life, but should I consider some sort of river safety course? Thanks.

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    i would run at least 9' pontoons. aluminum frame if you afford the extra expense is sweet if you have portage at all. i run a FishCat Cougar, made by Outcast. it has a quad pontoon design which is great for a few reasons. 1. the quad pontoons draw less water than standard designs. my boat only needs 3" of water. it glides over shallow riffles with ease. 2. i find it very stable, not tippy at all. standard designs are stable as well, but not quite as much. 3. if you hole on pontoon, you got 3 more to keep you on or near the surface until you get to shore. i had a leak in my outside left pontoon on a lake one day. i still managed to troll my was half a mile across the lake to the boat launch. it wasn't pretty, but it worked, and i didn't ended up swimming.

    i love Outcast boats. they're the best there is as far as i'm concerned. they use tougher, superior materials, and have awesome designs. www.outcastboats.com. they're a bit pricier, but they're worth it.

    as for other stuff:

    i wouldn't wear fins, and i'd only wear waist high waders if you can. if not, a wading belt is mandatory. either way, i'd still have a belt cinched tight to minimize any water pouring into the waders if you take a swim. waders filling with water can be deadly. you won't need the fins in the river, since you'll be using your oars. and if you end up in the drink, they really won't help.

    as far as knowing which rivers are doable, it all depends on your experience and comfort level. how good are you at reading water, picking lines, running rapids etc? i'd start on a small, tame rivers to start. the Stave is a pretty good one. no rapids to speak of and small enough that shore is never far away. the vedder is easily floatable in places as well. i'd start with peach road and downstream. don't outdo your abilities, and don't bullshit yourself into thinking you're a hotshot. start slow, and see how your skill set really is, then go from there. too many fishermen drown because they go beyond what they're skill level is.

    a river safety course is a great idea. Western Canoe and Kayak in Abbotsford offers a whitewater rescue course as well as whitewater kayak courses for very reasonable rates. if i remember right, they provide all the gear as well. even if you don't kayak, an entry level whitewater kayak course will give you an excellent chance to learn about the different classes of water, and how to read it and pick lines.

    hope this helps. best of luck to you.

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    Ruger offers some good advice. You might also want to check out the North Fork Outdoors (http://www.northforkoutdoors.com/). I've had the Skykomish Sunrise unit for about four years now and have used it in both lakes and on some reasonably fast running rivers. I'm completely satisfied with the construction and stability. The stand up platform is a real plus when out on a lake, for a number of various reasons. When I purchased mine it came with a life time warranty. It's still available for about $1000.00. These units can open up lots of new opportunities. One other thing, always wear a floater vest when on the water. Good luck. ng

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    Ya, those Dave Scadden Boats/toons are sure nice, Im looking at the Outlaw Professional Guide or the Outlaw Outfitter for up here. You would happen to know anyone who owns one do you?

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    Awesome! Thanks everyone for the really useful info.

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    Sorry Rick, I haven't seen or heard of anyone with one, not a big selection of toons on the water up here. However if all Scadden's units are as good as the Sunrise, they should be just fine. I'm thinking about unloading the Sunrise and getting an "Outlaw X5" for next season. It should be a hoot, just off the beach with a 40+ spring on an 8wt ..........
    I quess winter is for dreaming. ng

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    Christopher Chin, Proulxville, Quebec gives a great review on the Scadden Outlaw Outfitter. Google search him. He has nothing to do with Scadden and is originally from BC. Lost my message, but My dad has one only use on one trip 2 days. He would like to down size as this is a 3 person guide boat. I also have a Scadden X5 and have been very happy with both boats. Is anyone interested in the Outlaw Outfitter. You can also see the boat on North Fork Outdoor website. I have nothing to do with either of them. It is just were you can see the boat on the internet. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruger View Post


    as far as knowing which rivers are doable, it all depends on your experience and comfort level. how good are you at reading water, picking lines, running rapids etc? i'd start on a small, tame rivers to start. the Stave is a pretty good one. no rapids to speak of and small enough that shore is never far away. the vedder is easily floatable in places as well. i'd start with peach road and downstream. don't outdo your abilities, and don't bullshit yourself into thinking you're a hotshot. start slow, and see how your skill set really is, then go from there. too many fishermen drown because they go beyond what they're skill level is.

    I can't emphasize this too much. The first river I floated was the Bow below Calgary, an easy class 1 river throughout the length I was on. Still managed to get into trouble (dropped and anchor and got caught, almost capsized). The next was the Moyie. I have seen lakes with more current, but my wife still managed to get caught up in an ugly sweeper that took us 1/2 an hour to extract her and the boat from. One vacation and 2 good (and potentially fatal) lessons learned. A pfd is the most important accessory to your boat.
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    PFD is manditory. I float the Squamish with a 9ft outcast discovery no problem, good wadding belt, set of oars,and be careful of the type of anchor you use, you don't want one that digs in

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    Thanks for the info sagephreak,

    I ended up getting a 9ft outcast as well for the squamish system. Was wondering if you had any advice / experience on solo floating the squamish? IE how to get back upstream to the car? Do you think squamish taxi would do a pick up and delivery? I'm sure it's not the weirdest thing a taxi driver has seen, but might rank up there. Thankfully the boat breaks down to fit into any trunk.

    Has anyone else tried the float and cab back routine?!

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