Chuck n' Duck

Nice fly andy!! I could also see this fly tied in other colors and sizes used for coho and chum, have you ever tried that?

I've mostly tied them in black / brown / midnight fire and kept them around size 8.

Although.. I do have some UV purple and chartreuse chenille's kicking around somewhere. That's a great idea!

I seem to have a hell of a time with rubber legs. Any tips on how to keep the insanity level to a minimum?

Have you tried tying with the connected style, shown in the photos above. I find they make tying with the dang things much much easier.

Make sure you've got a good thread base built up. With the first few wraps, secure the legs to the desired angle (not too tight!), then wrap the thread back to fully secure the rubber legs. One you finish the fly, use a bodkin (or just your fingers..) and seperate the legs. They should form a nice split-v.

Hope this helps.

I'll give it a try, thanks thanks.

BCBound..I found a way that cured my insanity when tying in rubber legs that work like a charm for me..
..take one piece of rubber, put it under ur thread to the length u want , making sure both sides are equal..wrap several turns of thread ..I usually do 2, sometimes 3, then do the same for the other side..the legs stay apart and are quite flexible when in water....................AW

More great advice. Soon as I have time back at the vice I'll give it a shot. For some reason I've been beating my head against the wall when it comes to tying any type of decent looking stone.

I've since had some much better attempts using those rubber legs. One day when I figure out my wifes camera I'll actually post a pic or two of the flies I've tied